success in the debate was that this was the moderate romney. that he basically repudiated all of his campaign positions and this is of course what the obama campaign is saying. >> is that true? >> well, i think they're allowed to the fact he was able to challenge the president on things thats' claimed he's saying and democrats famously say that republicans want polluted water and slave work-- sweatshops and low wages for working people. and he was able to challenge those things directly to the president. and he never, you know, it's not nice to use the word liar for your opponent in politics, but he was able to basically layout where what the president has been saying about him is not true. >> paul: let's show a clip of the president's frustration with some of mitt romney's answers. >> he says that he's going to close deductions and loopholes for his tax plan and that's how it's going to be paid for, but we don't know the details, he says that he's going to replace dodd frank, wall street reform, but we don't know exactly which ones. he won't t